Resumen del episodio
Mark Evans is a fourth generation pastor who nearly quit. Around two years ago he told his own congregation he’d been drinking almost every night to self-medicate, and that confession is where this conversation starts. We talk about what he calls the guru drug: the pedestal people put pastors and public figures on, and the hypocrisy that grows in the gap between the pedestal and the person. His antidote is honesty. Boast in your weakness and there’s nothing left to protect. Alexa shares what happened the night she told her story on live TV, we talk about what it’s like when people say things about you publicly and you choose not to defend yourself, and Mark lands a line we haven’t stopped thinking about: don’t be the devil’s debt collector. Also: a church that meets around tables, getting zoned out of a backyard, and why every disciple was a misfit. Episodes every Tuesday and Thursday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Mark Evans is a fourth generation pastor who nearly quit. Around two years ago he told his own congregation he’d been drinking almost every night to self-medicate, and that confession is where this conversation starts. We talk about what he calls the guru drug: the pedestal people put pastors and public figures on, and the hypocrisy that grows in the gap between the pedestal and the person. His antidote is honesty. Boast in your weakness and there’s nothing left to protect. Alexa shares what happened the night she told her story on live TV, we talk about what it’s like when people say things about you publicly and you choose not to defend yourself, and Mark lands a line we haven’t stopped thinking about: don’t be the devil’s debt collector. Also: a church that meets around tables, getting zoned out of a backyard, and why every disciple was a misfit. Episodes every Tuesday and Thursday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episodios
The Pastor Who Confessed: Honesty, Hypocrisy & Church Around Tables (Ft. Mark Evans)
EscuchadoMark Evans is a fourth generation pastor who nearly quit. Around two years ago he told his own congregation he’d been drinking almost every night to self-medicate, and that confession is where this conversation starts. We talk about what he calls the guru drug: the pedestal people put pastors and public figures on, and the hypocrisy that grows in the gap between the pedestal and the person. His antidote is honesty. Boast in your weakness and there’s nothing left to protect. Alexa shares what happened the night she told her story on live TV, we talk about what it’s like when people say things about you publicly and you choose not to defend yourself, and Mark lands a line we haven’t stopped thinking about: don’t be the devil’s debt collector. Also: a church that meets around tables, getting zoned out of a backyard, and why every disciple was a misfit. Episodes every Tuesday and Thursday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What We Saw Backstage at a Megachurch
EscuchadoWe volunteered at a three day conference at a massive Los Angeles church, working behind the scenes, seating celebrity pastors. We won’t name it. We heard staff yelling at each other through our earpieces during a worship conference. Alexa, eight months pregnant, was sent to move a small church that had shown up on time out of their seats so a bigger church that was late could have them. Carlos offered to walk a well known pastor to her seat and she told him she could read. Over three days, one pastor acknowledged that we were human beings. This is about why we stayed. How to tell the difference between a church that is actually broken and your own hurt looking for somewhere to land. The night Carlos decided he was done with the church we’re at now, and what changed his mind. And the churches that formed us, including one on Maui that fits inside a pickup truck. If someone in a church hurt you, we’re not going to tell you that you caused it. Real abuse is a separate conversation and this isn’t it. But if you…
My Heart Knows You’re Safe. My Body Doesn’t.
EscuchadoNo guest this week. Just us, answering what came in. Alexa talks about the hardest season of our marriage, the year she spent praying over it, and how long it took before she saw anything change. Then she explains something neither of us had ever said out loud: that after a fight her heart and her mind know Carlos is safe, but her body puts a wall up and has to learn to trust him again. We get into why one of us wants to talk it out tonight and the other needs space first. We disagree, on the record, about posting our kids. We agree completely about phones, which is that ours aren’t getting one before 18. Carlos talks about the job he turned down, and whether money changes a person or just reveals them. The last question was what opinion might lose us followers. Alexa answers it. She’s pro-life, and she’s clear that she doesn’t mean pro-birth. She means pro-baby, pro-mama, and taking care of that mama after the baby comes. She also tells the story of a girl who called her, and what came of it. Episodes every…
Gustavo Tells All: The Red Lobster Bonus, Robbing the Set & 8.8 Billion Plays (Ft. Stephen Kramer Glickman)
EscuchadoStephen Kramer Glickman played Gustavo Rocque on Big Time Rush. During the pandemic he put a cover of "Crazy" on TikTok, it did 8.8 billion plays, it charted on Billboard above Kendrick Lamar, and almost nobody realized it was him. That's how he ended up on the reunion tour, after a phone call that came through while he was sitting in synagogue with his mom. Carlos has known Stephen longer than he's known Alexa, so nothing in this one is off limits. He crashed a Big Time Rush mall show in full Gustavo costume and got pulled out by security. Fans left CDs on his car because they thought he was a real record producer. At the end of season three he rented a truck, backed it onto the soundstage, and took home everything he could fit, and then the show got picked up for a fourth season and somebody asked for it all back. On the final season, everybody got a raise. Stephen got a few hundred dollars. An executive promised him a real check on the last shooting day. What he actually got was an envelope with a $250…
Saver vs. Giver: What Money Does to a Marriage (Ft. Colby Gilmore)
EscuchadoDisclaimer: This conversation is for general information and encouragement only. It is not financial, investment, tax, or legal advice, and nothing in it is a recommendation to buy, sell, or hold anything. Colby's comments reflect his own views, not advice for your situation. Talk to a licensed professional who knows your actual circumstances before you make any money decision. One of us saves. One of us gives it all away. Thirteen years of marriage and we are still negotiating it. Colby Gilmore is a wealth manager who works mostly with athletes and entertainers, and who emailed Carlos every month for eight months before we finally agreed to meet. He showed up and led with Jesus and family before he said a word about taxes, and that is pretty much how this conversation goes. Alexa tells the story of asking her mom, at seven or eight years old, how much she was making from a movie. Carlos admits that things, not money, were the idol. We have a real disagreement about debt that nobody in the room wins. Colby…