The Grove Podcast

In episode five of our Summer Recap Series, Shelley Giglio and Lisa Harper unpack what it looks like to move beyond simply knowing Scripture and begin truly knowing the God of the Bible. Lisa shares how her own journey through disappointment, failure, fear, and loss led her to discover that the Bible isn’t just a collection of teachings—it’s a love story written by a God who has been pursuing us all along. From her calling in public ministry to the painful waiting seasons before adopting her daughter, Missy, Lisa reflects on the kindness of God in the darkest moments. She shares how God met her in places of loneliness and fear, teaching her that her identity was never dependent on what she could accomplish, fix, or present to others—but on the finished work of Jesus. Together, Shelley and Lisa talk about biblical literacy, the beauty of theology, the freedom of authenticity, and what it means to stop curating our emotions and start receiving the love of a God who sees us completely. This conversation is a…

In episode four of our Summer Recap Series, Shelley Giglio sits down with Jackie Hill Perry for a powerful and deeply honest conversation about faith, humility, marriage, and trusting God in every season of life. Jackie reflects on what it looks like to stay faithful to God’s calling while raising four children and walking through the daily tension of obedience and surrender. Together, they explore what it takes to be humble in leadership, the danger of envy and discontentment, and the quiet, unseen work of becoming like Christ. Jackie also opens up about her journey of learning to trust God more deeply and discovering that He has been faithfully protecting and shaping her all along. This conversation is a reminder that discipleship is both costly and beautiful, and that God meets us in the slow, refining process of becoming who He has called us to be.

In episode three of our Summer Recap Series, Shelley Giglio sits down with Christine Caine as she takes us to John 5 and the story of the man at the Pool of Bethesda. She challenges us to examine the places where we've become comfortable sitting on our "mats." Through powerful teaching and personal testimony, Christine reminds us that Jesus doesn't just meet us in our pain—He invites us into healing. This message is a bold invitation to stop letting our past dictate our future, pick up our mats, and walk in the freedom, wholeness, and calling Christ has for us.

In episode two of our Summer Recap Series, Shelley Giglio sits down with Sadie Robertson Huff and Korie Robertson for an honest and encouraging conversation about faith, family, purpose, and becoming who God created you to be. Together, they reflect on everything from Passion Conference moments to vulnerability, contentment, spiritual discipline, and trusting God’s timing. This conversation is full of wisdom, personal stories, and reminders that God is faithful to guide every step of our lives.

In episode one of our Summer Recap Series, Shelley Giglio welcomes returning guest Brooke Ligertwood for a rich conversation centered on anointing, obedience, and remaining rooted in Jesus. Brooke shares her perspective on anointing as both a sacred invitation and a stewardship, explaining how being marked by God changes the way we live, think, and respond to Him. Together, they discuss the imagery of “good trees” from Scripture and reflect on how fruitfulness comes not through striving, but through remaining planted and nourished by God. Brooke opens up about discovering songwriting as a child, how creativity became a pathway that ultimately led her to Jesus, and how she has navigated both worship ministry and mainstream music with a heart fixed on redemptive purpose. The conversation explores the tension between comfort and obedience, the daily choice to stay surrendered, and the courage required to continue following Jesus wholeheartedly in every season.

In this Grove episode, Shelley Giglio sits down with author and speaker, Priscilla Shirer, to talk about raising a generation anchored in God’s Word, living surrendered in every season, and choosing courage over comfort. Priscilla shares how God uses both the big moments and the hidden ones to shape us for His purposes.

Shelley Giglio has a conversation with Hosanna Wong – an international speaker, best-selling author, and spoken word artist – about what it looks like to uncomplicate faith – allowing your relationship with God to be real in your real season, not a performance built on comparison or unrealistic expectations. From stories of Hosanna’s upbringing on the streets of San Francisco to a beautiful analogy of our faith compared to a vineyard, this episode invites the women of God to abide with God right where they are — trusting that obedience matters even when you can’t see the fruit yet.

Shelley Giglio sits down with Christine Caine for a powerful conversation about what it means to flourish in hard seasons. Drawing from Christine’s new book, The Faith to Flourish, and the biblical picture of the olive tree, this episode explores how staying rooted in Jesus helps us bear fruit, endure difficulty, and become a source of life and shade for others.

In this rich and honest conversation, Shelley Gigilo sits down with her friend and a longtime Grove girl, Jennie Lusko, to explore what it means to flourish in every season of life — from marriage and motherhood to calling, obedience, and spiritual growth. They remind us that faith is built not just on big moments, but on the small, daily yeses to God.

Courtney Pray Duke joins Shelley Giglio to share the story behind her new book And She Got Up — a testimony of grief, surrender, and God’s faithful presence after the sudden loss of her husband, Andrew. Together they talk about the “messy middle,” the power of scripture, and what it looks like to keep getting up when life is upended.

In this honest conversation, Dr. Crawford Loritts joins Shelley Giglio to talk about faith, family, and the unseen work of God that will shape generations. From the role of prayer in parenting to the importance of repentance and humility before God, this episode is a reminder that lasting legacy is not built on perfection, but in surrender to Jesus. Whether you’re a parent or simply longing to break generational patterns, this conversation will encourage you to start where real transformation begins – at the feet of Jesus.

In this episode, Shelley Giglio and Natalie Grant unpack what it really means to trust God — not just when life feels steady, but when everything changes. Natalie shares her powerful testimony of walking through a cancer diagnosis that threatened her voice, the deep work of surrender that happened through that process, and how she learned to rest in God’s presence rather than rush through pain. Together, they explore the tension between fear and faith, the beauty of finding God in the middle of the storm, and what it looks like to release control as a mother while watching her daughters step into independence.

In this episode of The Grove Podcast, Shelley Giglio is joined by Jackie Hill Perry for a powerful conversation about faith, formation, and the hidden places where God does His deepest work. Together they unpack the wrestle with ambition, the beauty of spiritual disciplines, and the way God meets us in our lack to remind us that He alone is enough. Wherever you find yourself, this episode will encourage you to trust that God uses every part of your story to make you more like Jesus.

In this heartfelt conversation, Shelley Giglio sits down with DeAnza Duron—pastor, mother of seven, and grandmother to twenty-one—to talk about the power of grace in motherhood, the gift of trust in God’s plan, and the daily choice to live in peace instead of fear. Together, they discuss the foundational truths of parenting—keeping a clean heart, anchoring your home in God’s Word, and raising children to love and serve others. They also tackle fear, trust, and joy—reminding every woman listening that peace is possible, joy is worth fighting for, and choosing life in Jesus changes everything.

In this episode, Shelley Giglio, Daniele Flickinger, and Susan Robinson sit down for a powerful conversation about the kind of beauty that blooms from within—especially in the seasons that feel barren. Together, they remind us that God is always at work, bringing life and purpose even in the wilderness.

In this episode of The Grove Podcast, Shelley Giglio and Christine Caine dive into a powerful conversation on spiritual maturity, intentional community, and saying “yes” to Jesus—again and again. From choosing depth over performance to building friendships that reflect God’s heart, this episode will stir you toward a life rooted in purpose and full of faith.

In this episode, friends of the Grove— Rachel Baldwin, Kerri Stanfill, and Susan Robinson join us for a heartfelt conversation about real community—what it means to be seen, loved, and surrounded. With honesty and wisdom, they invite us to go first: in vulnerability, in reaching out, in showing up. Whether you’re thriving in friendship or feeling alone, you’ll leave reminded: you’re not the only one, and you’re not alone.

In this episode, Lisa Harper joins Shelley Giglio for a heartfelt and humorous conversation about theology, friendship, and authentic community. Lisa shares how God transformed her view of theology from a mask of performance into a relational journey of knowing Jesus. She also shares about what Jesus is doing at her Kerygma Conference, her new book “A Jesus Shaped Life,” and how theology is meant for everyday women seeking a deeper walk with Christ.

CeCe Winans joins Shelley Giglio for a powerful conversation about legacy, surrender, and living a life that reflects Jesus. From dying to self to walking humbly with God, CeCe shares the heart behind her faith, her music, and the legacy she hopes to leave. They unpack the power of representing Jesus, and of getting out of the way so that He gets all of the glory. This episode is pure gold– full of wisdom, encouragement, and a powerful truth that the more we pour out, the more God shows up.

In this episode, Shelley Giglio sits down with Alex Seeley for a rich and honest conversation about leadership, community, and living out your God-given calling. Alex shares powerful insight from her journey of planting The Belonging Co, speaking to the difference between leadership and shepherding. They unpack the importance of embracing your uniqueness, walking in humility, and building authentic community that reflects the heart of Jesus. It's an encouraging and grace-filled reminder that we’re called not just to lead, but to love and serve faithfully wherever God has placed us.

In this episode, Shelley Giglio is joined by DawnCheré Wilkerson for a tender and honest conversation around trusting God in every season — especially the ones that feel slow, quiet, or uncertain. Together, they talk about the power of living with purpose and intentionality, the importance of community, and what it looks like to fully surrender to God's timing. This episode is full of encouragement for any woman learning to trust God deeply, even when the road ahead is unclear.

In this episode, Shelley leads another profound discussion with Daniele, Courtney, and Susan to encourage women of God to lean into His Word in various seasons of life in motherhood, grief, and forgiveness. They share testimonies of radical faith and healing through every mountain and valley circumstance while sharing encouragement around the power of having a strong, personal relationship with Scripture.

In this episode, Shelley leads a profound discussion with Daniele, Courtney, and Susan to encourage women of God to enjoy His Word for themselves. They share testimonies of radical faith and healing even in the trenches of life circumstances while sharing encouragement around the power of having a strong, personal relationship with Scripture. As incredible women of God, these ladies share with us their experiences of spiritual growth in keeping biblical truth as their foundation.

In this episode, Lysa engages in a conversation with her friend and Grove visionary, Shelley Giglio, about trust, skepticism, and using discernment in relationships. Lysa beautifully explores the tension between self-preservation and gospel-driven healing through her own testimony of continued forgiveness as a pathway to freedom. Together, Shelley and Lysa unpack practical ways to move forward from places of hurt and how to invite life-giving community back into your life when fear feels overwhelming.

In this episode, Jackie Hill Perry has a conversation with Shelley Giglio on humility & surrender. They talk about living a life that exemplifies following God with acts of "simple godliness" in honoring a spouse, raising children, and being mindful of our interactions with others. Jackie even offers how this narrow road of living can be difficult and gives examples in her own life where she needed to trust in this Truth. Her transparency is so refreshing and will offer us a chance to review our own lives in this way.

In this episode, Demi-Leigh Tebow talks about her passion for seeing women break free from the societal roles and labels that want to give them their identity. She alerts us to be aware of how we allow our careers, motherhood, singleness, hardships, or blessings to define who we are as women. Demi-Leigh + Shelley Giglio during their time reminds us that our hope must anchor in Jesus and Him alone.

In this episode, Sissy Goff opens her own life to share how God led her into this line of work and how she has to face the temptations of fear & anxiety. Her testimony unveils all the things she thought she would have and the losses she had to surrender to God, trusting His way, His will, and His plan for her life. As she shares, with Grove friend Brittany Jones, it becomes evidently clear, that the help Sissy offers to others is the very space where she trusts God with her heart.

In today's episode Daniele, leads a conversation with Kirsten + Courtney around all it means to experience the joy that happens when we live On Purpose For A Purpose. They recount their testimonies from different seasons of life as their roles changed or evolved, and how they embraced those turns in each season. The breadth of their experience is sure to find you wherever you might be today - from singleness to wife, from a successful career to unemployment - their hearts are filled with hope in the purpose and calling all women have over their lives.

In this episode, Lisa Bevere shares how her heart in this season is to see the next generation rise up and take their place in the kingdom of God. She talks with Shelley about the new thing God is doing to cultivate a hunger in His Church and to see women flourishing in the courts of the Lord. Whether you are young or old this message has an invitation for you to accept your seat at the table and believe in the ways God wants to use you.

In this episode, we are sharing one of the special highlights from The Grove Conference 2023. Our friend Brooke Ligertwood opened The Word of God in Psalm 22 to offer fresh revelation on how each of us have been bought with a price. Brooke masterfully connects this Davidic Psalm to Mark 15:34 and how the Crimson Worm ties it all together. This message is one you are sure to never forget!

In this episode, Oneka McClellan has a conversation with Shelley Giglio on all things marriage, church building, and living a faith filled life. She so wonderfully helps us realize that her unconditional joy isn't because she avoids the heavy or the hard. But instead it's a heart posture of gratitude toward a loving Savior which cultivates a heart overflowing. This conversation is so personal, practical and purposeful that it's an absolute encouragement for sure.

In this episode, Bianca sits down with The Grove visionary, Shelley Giglio, to discuss the intentional ways we have an opportunity to choose everlasting joy. Throughout the conversation, Bianca gracefully talks about being both a writer, pastor to a local church, and a woman navigating her own needs in life. She transparently opens her heart around all of these subjects to let us know she doesn't have it all together but she does choose Jesus, daily. And it's in choosing Him that she has the everlasting joy only He can provide bringing her complete freedom.

Jenn Johnson is a singer, songwriter, and worship leader for the Bethel Music movement, which she co-founded alongside her husband. Jenn and Brian have been married 23 years and they 5 amazing kids - Two daughters, Haley and Téa, as well three sons Braden, Ryder, and Malachi. Jenn's heart is for the people of God to experience the presence of God. And she lives this out both through her love for music but primarily in her interactions with people.

In today's episode, Lisa sits with visionary, Shelley Giglio, to talk about how the greatest love story ever told changed her life! Lisa shares candidly over how God pursued her heart over time in the areas of abandonment, fear, rejection and acceptance. It was God's love that shaped Lisa into the woman we see today and her testimony of trusting Him through the process is sure to encourage you no matter where you are in your journey.

In today's episode we have some of the most faithful Passion City Church builders we know, Emily Vogeltanz sits with Todd and Susan Peterson. These three talk about what it means to serve and honor God with our finances. Their conversation offers more than just practical saving tips and spending practices. It allows each of us to see all that is in store for our lives when we trust God with our money. Todd + Susan Peterson have spent their lives committing to this principle of being generous with their giving. It's through their real stories in different seasons where we see how God continued to prompt them to keep offering more.

Jess Connolly is an author, podcaster, speaker and coach for women. She is wife to Nick Connolly and together that have four growing kiddos, Elias, Gloriana, Benjamin and Cannon. Jess is a soul on fire with the desire to see women live the abundant life God has set aside for them. Her goal is to see them experiencing the freedom that can only come by receiving the love of Jesus, remaining in His Word and living freely in community. She is able to minister so effectively to the women in her life because this has been her own personal testimony.

Jen Wilkin is an author, podcaster, Bible teacher, wife to Jeffrey, mother to four adult children and grandmother. Her heart for making sure the people of God, especially the daughters of the King, have a clear view of who God is and are able to articulate that with knowledge. As a church builder and teacher of The Scriptures, Jen has given her life both in the books she pens and the spaces she teaches, to help others obtain Bible literacy. Her desire is that all people would understand the power of right believing so they can experience right living.

Kristen Ledlow Ramanakiwai is a sports broadcaster for the National Basketball Association, CEO to the children's clothing line Positionless, wife to Will Ramanakiwai and mama to sweet baby boy Kaiden with one on the way. Kristen has been a faithful attendee of Passion City Church for the last decade and in her time there formed a mentorship with Grove visionary + overseer, Shelley Giglio.

Annie F. Downs is an author, speaker and the host of That Sounds Fun podcast. She often describes herself as flawed but funny and loves to make sure that the goodness of God is evident in everyday life. As a communicator she extends this message into the heartbeat of her books, when she is sharing candidly on her podcast and when she is speaking to audiences everywhere. Annie's authenticity and genuine connection makes those around her feel like immediately friends. It's no wonder the ways God is using her life to communicate.

Jennie Allen is a Bible teacher, New York Times bestselling author, and the founder + visionary of IF:Gathering. She is married to Zac Allen and they are the parents to four wonderful young adult and adolescent children Kate, Conner, Cooper and Caroline. Jennie has a heart and a passion for this generation of women. She believes in helping women to love God more every day, to see Him for who He is through His Word, and to help women learn to give Him away as they meet the people around them. Her life and work testify to this call and mission that she lives out with such urgency.

In today's episode, Mia Fieldes Dunnavant joins us alongside Jourdan Johnson to share her faithful testimony in how she's had to wait & walk with God in every season of her life. Mia carefully unpacks all that it means to surrender every gift and desire back to God trusting He knows the time and season of all things in our lives. This conversation reminds us that the desires we hold dearly in our hearts over our gifts, seasons of life or even dreams can be laid before God believing He will unfold it all in His timing.

In today's episode Susan, leads a conversation with Daniele + Camilla around what it means to offer Jesus to new people in new places. These women help us to understand the freedom that exists when we remove the restraints on our lives by remaining within the walls of the church or within our own communities. They recount their own testimonies from every Tuesday, when they gather to serve and advance the Kingdom through love, kindness and discipleship in God's word. This episode is an encouraging word for all of us to be mindful of both, the narrow boundaries we set for ourselves and how to be Spirit led in breaking those walls down.

In today's episode, God completely shifted the direction of where our team thought we were going. In a turn of a few quick events, we found ourselves pivoting toward God's plans to have Cara Dyba sit down with Shelley Giglio and have a discussion around living a life open to pivoting. Cara's entire testimony up until this point has been a life of needing to understand when God was divinely stepping in to interrupt and shift the direction she was headed. And as He always promises in His word - These shifts were for His Glory and her good. Our team prays that while you listen to Cara's testimony, God would prompt you to review your own story for the ways He's been faithful to carry you through your own pivots. To connect with Cara on her story or around all she is doing to steward the Grove email her here at thegrove@passioncitychurch.com.

In today's episode with Hosanna Wong + Susan Robinson they discuss all that it means to allow the word of God and your relationship with Jesus to determine your identity. This conversation provides practical resources for uprooting all the adjectives in your life that have been contrary to what God has spoken over you. And reminding women that God has created you for royalty and wants to shift you back to your assigned position as a daughter of the King. If you want to keep up with all Hosanna is doing visit her at hosannawong.com and follow her on IG @hosanna.wong

In today's episode, Jill McCloughry joins us to share with Shelley Giglio her heart concerning what it means to remain obedient to the One who called you. In their time together they uncover what God is able to do in our hearts with hidden spaces in order to continue cultivating our gifts. This conversation lands with them reminding us that the primary longing in our hearts, even above using our gifts, should be to trust God with the gifts He's given.

Lisa Harper is one of the greatest author, preacher, theologian, story teller and friend of The Grove. Today, Lisa is joined by Courtney Pray Duke to exegete and review the truth in God’s word around what it means to begin kingdom work - And how not to despise but delight in the what the Lord is asking you to do.

Hosanna Wong is a spoken word artist, author, preacher, wife and friend of The Grove. We were so honored to have her join us for our 10th Grove Christmas :: TESTIFY. During this night she delivered a powerful message on being honest with yourself and allowing Jesus to accept, love and lead you right where you are in life. She shared the importance of embracing a new identity in Him in order to feel release from the idol of comparison and how that release brings freedom to love Jesus fully. The best part of it all is that she shared not 1 but 2 original spoken word pieces that were a tremendous blessing to the women in the room. Hosanna and her husband, Guy, serve faithfully on teaching teams at different churches throughout the United States. If you want to keep up with all Hosanna is doing visit her at hosannawong.com

In this conversation, Louie + Shelley Giglio sit down with Kristian + Kerri to share about Kristian's former struggle with sobriety. During this time they unpack the beauty of community, how it saved his life, his marriage and deepened his relationship with God. Kristian + Kerri also explain how these years have cultivated and birthed some very heartfelt and transparent songs in his newest album rooted from his testimony.

In today's episode, Holly sit downs with Grove Director, Cara Dyba, to share about releasing our children back to God in every season. Holly was last with us in Nov 2020 {Season 3 Episode 7 :: A Steady Confidence} where she talked about growing in leadership, leading through difficult seasons and fighting for healthy relationships. Well today feels like her hearts cry in an extension of those days. Holly gracefully shares with us how to release our children but more importantly how to trust God through the process. This message is for any woman regardless of her maternal status - There is a deep truth around believing God with the things we hold dearest and trusting He knows best for us. We are excited for you to hear this discussion, because we know once you've heard it you'll never be the same!

In today's episode we are pulling from our trove of treasures to bring you this gem of a message. Brooke Ligertwood came to both lead and teach at our local Grove gathering in FEB 2018. In her message she shared boldly around the gift and the importance of the Father's Blessing in their children's life. In the beautiful parallel between her own testimony and the story of Issac with his two sons Jacob + Esau, Brooke explains not only the biblical significance but its continued relevance for today.